Advertisements
This Is Believeland Podcast Episode 48: Previewing the upcoming MLB Postseason with Elaine Shircliff. We discuss which teams we think will win and could go on a run.
Tag Archives: San Diego Padres
Mike Clevinger traded to San Diego Padres
Advertisements
The Cleveland Baseball Club has traded starting pitcher Mike Clevinger to the San Diego Padres.
Mike Clevinger is headed to San Diego to join the Padres. Robert Murray reported the deal Monday morning.
This is the fifth trade between San Diego and Cleveland in recent memory.
There was the expectation that this was the landing spot for Clevinger after some early reports Sunday evening. Clevinger’s departure from Cleveland was all but certain before the season. It only became more of a possibility once Clevinger violated team rules and the offense continued to struggle.
Greg Allen and a player to be named later has also been sent to San Diego in the deal, clearing some room for the incoming Josh Naylor.
Cleveland will be receiving Cal Quantrill, Gabriel Arias, Josh Naylor, Joey Cantillo, Austin Hedges, and Owen Miller.
Quantrill, Hedges, Naylor can make an instant impact on the Major League rosterater. Quantrill has mostly come out of the bullpen they season (10 appearances, 1 start) and has been fairly effective. Naylor will help bolster an outfield group that has been pretty bad offensively this season. Hedges seems to be replacement for Sandy Leon and can help provide some offense at the catcher position along with Roberto Perez.
Gabriel Arias, Joey Cantillo, and Owen Miller are pieces for later. These are the number 7, 9, and 11 prospects in the Padres system. Arias and Miller are both infielders and can help with the potential departure of Francisco Lindor this winter. Cantillo is another arm that Cleveland can mold and develop in their pitching factory where they seem to just manufacture pitchers.
Cleveland got exactly what they needed in this deal, help for now and later.
Fernando Tatis Jr. triggers unwritten rules nonsense
Advertisements
Padres shorstop Fernando Tatis Jr. hit a late grand slam on a 3-0 pitch in a lopsided win which triggered a discussion about unwritten rules.
The San Diego Padres defeated the Texas Rangers 14-4 Monday and it was capped off by a Fernando Tatis Jr. grand slam. Tatis swung away on a 3-0 pitch in the 8th inning to drive in the final four runs for the Padres.
Tatis connecting on this pitch and hitting a grand slam apparently made the Rangers mad and this triggered the whole nonsense conversation about unwritten rules.
Here’s the deal, you can take those unwritten rules and throw them right in the garbage. Don’t want to give up a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch? Don’t throw the fourth pitch in the strike zone. Better yet, don’t let the bases become loaded in the first place.
The batter has every right to swing with the bases loaded up by a ton of runs. Pour on the runs every chance you can to make it impossible for the other team to come back.
Also it is worth noting that for a team so concerned with unwritten rules and sportsmanship they had zero problem throwing behind Manny Machado in the next at-at.
Texas needs to figure out just what side they are on, because actions like this do not help their case. Acting like a child does not promote anything positive and that is what happened when Machado was thrown at.
Fernando Tatis Jr. needs to do one thing and one thing only. Swing away and do not concern yourself with archaic unwritten rules that are only championed by those who are completely out of touch with reality.
Padres still interested in Francisco Lindor
Advertisements
The San Diego Padres are persistent aren’t they? San Diego still has interest in acquiring shortstop Francisco Lindor. Well they can get in line behind the others because Lindor is quite the commodity and will not come cheap.
That last part matters here. Acquiring one of the best players in baseball will require parting ways with a lot of talent. Quality talent, something that the Padres have been relatively unwilling to do. It is also worth nothing that players of interest to Cleveland have already been sent elsewhere. Luis Urias was sent to Milwaukee and the duo of Hunter Renfroe and Manuel Margot are now in Tampa Bay. Wil Myers and some other players aren’t going to get it done, no matter how desperate the Padres are to move him.
Cleveland has essentially shut down the trade rumors involving Francisco Lindor for the time being. Referred to as 99% false earlier this offseason. That will not stop the rumors from coming up from time to time. Especially since everyone can realize that the Tribe have literally zero margin for error this season. Other teams realize this and are trying to pounce and acquire Lindor before one of their rivals can.
Perhaps with both teams already having executed a trade last season it may lead to an extensive discussions. The deal that landed Franmil Reyes and Logan Allen in Cleveland allowed the Tribe to evaluate the Padres system quite thoroughly. If they really want Mr. Smile they better come with a “Godfather offer”. Anything else is just an insult.
Unless the return is substantial a trade should not be expected anytime soon. No matter how much the Padres want to acquire Francisco Lindor.
Mike Clevinger drawing trade interest
Advertisements
Cleveland Indians starting pitcher Mike Clevinger is drawing trade interest from both the San Diego Padres and Los Angeles Dodgers.
It seems like the teams that missed out on trading for Corey Kluber are attempting to acquire a different pitcher from the Cleveland Indians. Mike Clevinger.
The fact that both the San Diego Padres and Los Angeles Dodgers are interested makes sense. Both teams were at one point in on Kluber and they both need help in their rotation. San Diego wants to make their move and contend for the playoffs this season. The clear weakness for San Diego is pitching. Chris Paddack is great, but after that it is a ton of question marks. Acquiring Zach Davies is a step in the right direction, but it shouldn’t end their quest to improve their pitching. Acquiring someone like Mike Clevinger would be a huge boost for the Padres.
The only issue is what they can offer. San Diego has already traded some players that could have been of interest to the Tribe. Players such as Luis Urias and Hunter Renfroe could have persuaded Cleveland to part ways with Sunshine, but they are no longer available due to being sent to Milwaukee and Tampa respectively.
For the Dodgers, they are facing the harsh reality of losing Hyun-Jin Ryu. Los Angeles has been actively trying to makes moves to limit that loss. At one point they discussed Gerrit Cole and they have had discussions involving Mike Clevinger, in addition to Francisco Lindor. That package would be massive for Cleveland if offered. The only obstacle is that the Dodgers are pretty much flat out refusing to include Gavin Lux in any trade discussions. That is just a case of getting in their own way, because the Indians need to acquire a talent like Lux if they are going to move both Mike Clevinger and Francisco Lindor.
The trade rumors are only going to continue this offseason. Whether or not Cleveland trades Mike Clevinger and/or Francisco Lindor is going to be an ongoing topic all winter.
Trade market for Corey Kluber becoming more clear
Advertisements
Cleveland Indians pitcher Corey Kluber is getting an almost surprising amount of interest during trade discussions this offseason.
Well, we can cross one team off and add one team to the list of clubs interested in Corey Kluber. The Los Angeles Angels are out according to reports. This is after Kluber was linked to the Angels earlier this week.
The team to add to the list? Texas. Apparently the Rangers have decided to throw their hats into the ring and are trying their hand at acquiring the two-time Cy Young Award winner.
The report of the Rangers being interested came before the Angels found themselves out of the running. Same with this report of the Padres still being in the mix.
To the surprise of no one, the Dodgers are still linked to Corey Kluber.
It seems that there is a sweepstakes of sorts. The Dodgers, Padres and Rangers all have interest in Corey Kluber. All teams need help in their rotation, some more than others. The interest from Texas seems to be mostly focused on Kluber while Los Angeles and San Diego could be eyeing on a combo package that also involves Francisco Lindor. The only hurdle with those discussions is that both the Dodgers and Padres are not willing to give up their top prospects. Something that needs to happen in order to acquire players of their caliber.
Here is the reality. Corey Kluber is not going to bring the return he would have a year ago. A season marred with injuries an poor performance will do that. Kluber only made seven starts before taking a line drive off his right forearm, ending his season. His 5.80 ERA and 1.654 WHIP were his worst since becoming a starter for the Tribe. Teams interested in his services are most likely assuming that last year was a fluke and a return to this previous Cy Young wining form is more likely than not.
Previously, many thought that Cleveland should wait for Kluber to rebuild his value before attempting to trade him. Now they are in a situation where they need to strike while the iron is hot and make a deal while they can. It appears that a trade of Corey Kluber will come sooner rather than later.
Indians discussing Kluber with Padres
Advertisements
In addition to discussing Corey Kluber with the Los Angeles Dodgers, the Cleveland Indians have also talked with the San Diego Padres.
The Corey Kluber trade rumors never stop. Now the Indians are reportedly discussing the two-time Cy Young Award winner with the San Diego Padres. Jon Morosi reported yesterday that the two clubs have talked about Kluber.
Apparently the main hangup on the San Diego side is the refusal to include any top five prospect. This does include former Indians catcher Francisco Mejia. Although a deal that brings Mejia back to Cleveland is rather unlikely. Cleveland has shown interest in the clubs sixth best prospect, left-handed pitcher Adrian Morejon.
While Morejon could have a bright future, the outright refusal to include any prospect in the top five should deter the Indians from making a deal. It is a bit unfair to expect San Diego to deal all four non-former Cleveland prospects for Kluber. That being said at least two is more than fair. San Diego appears to want a premier pitcher for a bargain price, which is not going to happen.
The Padres could even include some Major League outfielders and that still might not be enough for Kluber. While Hunter Renfroe and Manuel Margot potentially have long careers in front of them, the Indians are not in the business of a complete tear down. If Cleveland was in the situation that the White Sox were a few years ago with Chris Sale that is a completely different story. Chicago sold Sale to Boston for a collection of prospects. The results, while early, have been relatively underwhelming thus far.
Considering that the Padres do not want to part with anything of relative value for Kluber, a match does not appear likely. If a trade does occur without a top five prospect that would be relatively surprising. While they need outfield help, Kluber for outfielders the Padres are moving on from is not all that enticing.